April 23, 2008

The T4G Cross

Does anybody know if there is a story behind the T4G cross? Does anybody want to guess? Did anyone notice the design?

togetherforthegospelcross.jpg

Posted by Bob Bixby at April 23, 2008 12:33 PM | eMail this entry! | 22 Words
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I speculate that the top left-hand right angle represents Ligon Duncan and the Presbyterian types. The bottom right-hand right angle represents C.J. Mahaney and his type. I can’t place the others.

Posted by: bob at April 23, 2008 12:38 PM

Bob,
I was just thinking about that the other day.
I did wonder about the story or history of the design.

My guess would be that the different parts (the “L’s”) are different fonts to symbolize the different denominations represented in the TG4 inner circle. Put together…they picture a cross (or the Gospel), hence…Together for the Gospel.

That’s my stab at it…do you concur?

Posted by: David Flinck at April 23, 2008 12:43 PM

I was thinking about the same thing during the conference. I don’t know if there’s a story or not. I think SovGrace artists designed it. Clearly it’s representing the convergence of different kinds of people around the cross.

FWIW, only three “denominations” are represented in the four in the inner circle. If I had to pick, I’d go with Bob’s first two, Dever in the upper right, and Mohler with the lower left. At least that’s how I had it broken down in my head last week. But I suspect we’re over-thinking it.

Posted by: Ben at April 23, 2008 01:01 PM

The lower left is clearly the letter “T.” I would imagine the 2 SBC types are represented by the “upper right” (hmmm…).

Posted by: Greg Linscott at April 23, 2008 01:18 PM

I was thinking about that during the conference as well. I think the top left is Ligon, the bottom right is CJ (those are the easy ones). The other two are very similar, but the bottom left has a little “flare” that the other doesn’t. My guess is that is Mark and the top right is “square” Al. :)

Posted by: Scott Aniol at April 23, 2008 01:45 PM

Yes, but theologically, philosophically, and ecclesiastically don’t you think that Dever is a little more “square” than Mohler? At least that is the impression one might get if they read the commenters on the CT blog!


Posted by: bob at April 23, 2008 01:52 PM

You can also tell the bottom left is (part of) a letter “T” because they emphasize it with a contrasting color than the other three (“T” as in “Together”).

Posted by: Greg Linscott at April 23, 2008 01:55 PM

I have read just enough Dave Hunt books to know that it has got to be an occult Masonic symbol of some kind. What do you think about that? :)

Posted by: Andrew Henderson at April 23, 2008 02:57 PM

Al definitely has more flair than Mark. That’s why Mark’s top right.

And I’m with Henderson on the occult stuff. How many Hunt books do you have to read to see that? Just one, right? I mean, just one page, right?

Posted by: Ben at April 23, 2008 04:06 PM

Or…another possibility is that whoever did the design just thought it would look good. The cross has been used for just about everything and so many have it incorporated into their logo that the person designing just wanted to try and create something a little different.

Posted by: Shannon Brown at April 23, 2008 04:49 PM

It could be that the different shapes just represent different ecclesiastical artistic traditions emphasizing T4G’s “catholicity” (without identifying specific group members), while the “T” (bottom left) represents their unity (togetherness).

Posted by: AJ at April 23, 2008 04:58 PM

Shannon,

So THAT’S been your secret all along?

Posted by: ben at April 23, 2008 05:06 PM

Perhaps Dan Brown could write a novel about it.

It could contain the location of Noah’s Ark if we looked hard enough.

Posted by: Jason Janz at April 23, 2008 07:35 PM

Wow. I thought everybody already knew this!

It’s one of those Magic Eye illusions. (Check out magiceye.com.) That’s what the background dots are all about. You have to put your nose right up to it, then slowly back away from your computer screen. Look *through* it, not at it, and eventually you’ll see the hidden picture. It’s very cool.

Be patient. It can take 10-15 minutes for your eyes to adjust and “get it,” but it’s so worth it.

Posted by: Chris Anderson at April 23, 2008 11:00 PM

On flair, here’s a case in point. I heard today that there are two residences that contain original paintings of BOTH George and Martha Washington. One is the residence of the President of the United States. The other is the residence of the President of Southern Seminary.

Posted by: Ben at April 23, 2008 11:22 PM

You’re almost there, Chris. The trick is to hold it in front of a mirror and then do the “magic eye” thing. It’s frightening. And it’s dealt with in Revelation.

Posted by: Brian McCrorie at April 24, 2008 09:22 AM
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