January 16, 2008

To South Carolina Voters

Proposed Argument

I have friends and family in South Carolina. Many of them are too easily influenced by Bob Jones’ endorsement of Mitt Romney, but I know I have influence also and I am going to make an argument here for why I think it is wrong to nominate a candidate like Mitt Romney for the office of President of the United States even though I do not think it is necessarily inconsistent to vote for him in the general election should he become the Republican nominee.


Caveat

Caveat: Though I am very disappointed with Bob Jones, I still respect him for many other things and happily recommend students from my church to the university. This is not sour grapes of any kind, and I hope that my criticism is not written off by some loyal BJ people as worthless because I am publicly questioning the Jones’ judgment.

I also know that many people will disagree with my controversial perspective and take offense, but my purpose is only to make a strong appeal to every Christian citizen that reads my blog to act responsibly and “christianly” with the unique opportunity to make two different statements in the polling booth, one in the primaries and one in the general election.

Warming up: Two Different Statements

As I see it, you get to make a statement twice if you are a registered Democrat or Republican. You get to say something in the primaries and you get to say something in November. In some states even Independents get to make a statement in the Republican or Democrat parties! The primaries are a chance for all eligible persons to make a statement concerning the nomination of a candidate. The general election is the opportunity for all eligible persons to make a statement of choice. They are two distinct statements and require two separate processes of thought.

Here we go!

I might be safe to say that no other country in the world has a system where political parties bring the general public in on the nomination process. (And, in some states, even members from the opposing parties!). This is a wonderful privilege.

Consider the definitions first:

1. To nominate - “to propose someone for office”

2. To vote - “to formally express a choice”

Now it should be obvious to everyone that the action of making a choice is different than the action of proposing a candidate. It is not wrong to choose something that we would not endorse or generally approve of over something that is demonstrably worse. This is typically called voting (or choosing) for the lesser of two evils. Voting is a choice. It is not an endorsement.

To nominate, on the other hand, is to go beyond the sphere of mere choice and to propose what/who you believe will be the best possible choice for others who do not have the power to nominate. (Every state has primaries, but some states are more influential than others.) If you make a choice (vote) in the primary on the 19th of January you are also making a nomination. In your case you do not have the luxury of making a simple choice of the lesser-of-two evils. Your vote is more important than that. You are also making a statement to the entire nation about who you think ought to be a choice for President of the United States of America as the nomination from your party. You have a number of choices, but you must nominate only one.

As already stated, this is extremely unusual in the world. In most countries political parties make their own nominations and the process is not at all public. In this country the general population of registered voters have, in theory anyway, a voice in the selection of their party’s nomination.

As my mind sees it, my vote on Super Tuesday (I’m still a registered Republican to my shame) will be considerably more complex than my vote in November 2008. My vote in a primary tells my party what I think they should be like as a party. If the party keeps getting its cues from voters who are only going to nominate the most electable person (i.e. the person with the most chance of beating the other party) then that party will inevitably slide into a non-descript collection of views , perspectives, and people that are out of necessity much like the party they oppose. Frankly, I think the Republican party is already there.

There are therefore many factors that go into your consideration of the candidates besides which one is better than the other out of two choices. Bob Jones seems to think that “beating Hillary” is the main issue. I think he is wrong. Besides the fact that the Democrats may succeed at “beating Hillary” without the help of Fundamentalists and Mormons, the ethical and spiritual ramifications of nominating as Christians a man who is in a cult as the only remotely winnable choice are far reaching. To endorse him is worse.

Of the many issues that must be carefully considered in the nominating process, electability is obviously a huge point. While it continues to baffle me that anyone thinks that Romney is the most electable against a black man or a woman, I can accept the notion that one may put so much weight into the electability of the nominee that they are willing to disregard almost every other issue. Romney has failed in two states already, but if one wants to continue to believe that he can resist the tidal wave of popularity that a woman and/or black man will be riding once the general election is underway, have at it.

But there are more issues than electability when one is nominating or endorsing and the man’s personal religion is not least among them. The fact that Romney is a Mormon matters. I would not nominate a Mormon even though I might choose a Mormon over a Murderer if it came down to that. I emphasize “might.” It will be a hard choice for me and I may consider voting a third party if the option is good. That’s down the road.

Important Notice

Now, notice that while I say that a man’s personal religion matters, I am not endorsing Mike Huckabee because he is an “evangelical.” Please note: I do not think that to believe that Romney’s Mormonism disqualifies him requires that one believe that Huckabee’s Christianity qualifies him.

Not All Sins are Equal

It is simplistic and misguided to glibly say that all non-Christians are the same and that to elect the irreligious vs. the false religion is a matter of indifference. Jones seems to think that Romney’s religion is better than Hillary’s non-religion. Obviously, he has other concerns in mind and abortion is one of them, but let’s consider that analysis for sake of illustration.

All other things being equal, is it true that false religion is preferable to no religion? Throughout the century believers have taught that there are degrees of evil. We naturally agree to this. Death may be an appropriate punishment for murder, but a bit excessive for speeding. While it is quite clear that the penalty for sin is always death, it is also obvious that the evil of things may have varying degrees or intensity. This should be obvious.

Is Abortion the Most Evil Thing?

To use our candidates as an example, Hillary and Romney are not Christian. One may be described as irreligious, the other as an adherent to a false religion. It is theologically true that both are the children of the father of lies, but one (on the face of it) has not chosen to follow truth and the other (on the face of it) has proactively embraced a blasphemous lie. Even though our nation is not a Christian nation, it is widely believed to have been founded on Christian principles and a basic Christian principle that was generally respected by Americans for the first two centuries of its existence is that the God of Christians should not be blasphemed.

We have had presidents who cuss and adulterate in the White House, but we have never chosen a man to be our leader who has sold his soul to a religious system that is committed to the blasphemy of the Lord Jesus Christ and the propagation of its lies until it has swept as many people as it possibly can into its vice-like grip. A Mormon president becomes a nation-wide endorsement of Mormonism. No, rather it becomes a world-wide endorsement of Mormonism.

Mitt Romney may be nice, amiable, and a good business man. But when Jones said, “I just believe that this man has the credentials both personally and ideologically in terms of his view about what American government should be to best represent the rank and file of conservative Americans” he was flat-out wrong.

If American government is only about anti-abortion, maybe. But there are many other nominees that are anti-abortion. If American government is about economics, maybe. But government, American or not, is also about representation. People get the government they deserve, and in most cases throughout history and the world people have not been able to nominate their representation. But when Christians choose to nominate their representation a man that has consciously embraced a “doctrine of demons” and loves a religion that aggressively blasphemes Jesus Christ the Lord then Christians should stop pretending that they mourn the loss of Christian principles that once governed our land.

To cry out that we are a Christian nation founded on Christian principles and then to nominate for the most powerful office in the world a man who is decidedly anti-Christian purely on the basis that he is the most electable anti-abortion candidate is as illogical as it is man-centered.

It is a basic Christian principle that Jesus is God. Jesus is the King of kings, the ruler of nations, and if He chooses to put over my land a Mormon or a Muslim Dictator I will humbly submit. But when I have the choice to suggest to the nation who I think would be a good governor I simply do not think I have the prerogative to decide that electability over a pro-abortion candidate justifies the exaltation of leader who has wholly embraced a systematic denial of God.

Messed up Evangelicals and Fundamentalists need to hear this: there may be some things worse than abortion.

Hundreds of babies, little boys, were murdered when Jesus came to this earth according to the Apostle Matthew. There are no apologies. God does not apologize that He did not figure out a way to thwart Herod’s murderous nature and save the lives of hundreds of babies when He came into the world as the Son of David. God did not postpone the magnification of the Son of God to stop the murders. As horrible as the murders were, they merely magnified the fact that all the rulers of the earth take counsel together against the Lord’s Anointed (Psalm 2).

When you nominate Romney you are not only nominating a man who will take his place in the long line of rulers that say, “Let us break their bonds in pieces and cast away their cords from us,” but you will also be nominating a man who lovingly embraces a system of thought that articulates that very agenda with aggressive passion.

I’d rather babies die and go to heaven.

When Romney made his “religious speech” he was as slick and oily as any politician we have ever had. Said he,

There is one fundamental question about which I often am asked. What do I believe about Jesus Christ? I believe that Jesus Christ is the Son of God and the Savior of mankind. My church’s beliefs about Christ may not all be the same as those of other faiths.

That is as slippery as Bill Clinton’s definition of “is” is. Even left-wing nut cases at the leftist Huffington Post have enought theological commons sense to know that is pure baloney. Check out this response to the above Romney quote:

In other words: I’m glad you asked that question. I’m not going to answer it. As a tribute to this great land of ours.

Because here’s the thing that Mitt Romney can’t say: The Mormon Jesus has about as much in common with Jesus of Nazareth as the Los Angeles Kings have with King Tut. They have the same name, kind of, and that’s it.

It doesn’t even have the theological weight to be heresy; it’s a simple case of mistaken identity. [Bob’s note: In other words, it’s so brazenly false that the lie doesn’t deserve the dignity of being called a lie. It is sheer stupidity.]

And I know that sounds like I’m being flip, but that’s only because I don’t care. But if it matters to you, it really, really matters (Chris Kelly)..

The problem, sir, is that people who say they care really don’t care. You’re absolutely right: if it matters to us, it really, really matters. But what you don’t get, Mr. Kelly, is that the anti-abortion right-to-life cause is the fundamental tenet of our evangelical religion and as fundamentalists we are quite used to elevating peripherals over the glory of God. We blush that a Sovereign God (who certainly could have prevented it) incited the wrath of a pro-death leader and caused the death of innocent babies by sending His Son into the world prematurely even though we know Galatians teaches that it was in the fullness of time. We’re confused, sir. We are man-centered enough to question the rationale of sending the Saviour of men into the world while permitting the death of babies. Clearly, for God His glory trumps our right to life. We just don’t agree.

At the very beginning, I said that I don’t think that it would be inconsistent to vote for Romney in the general election, but that would be only if the other candidate were demonstrably worse and I could convince myself that I was choosing Romney in order to resist a greater evil. Choosing is different than nominating. And whatever explanations may be given that to choose electability now is the same as choosing the lesser-of-two evils then does not negate the fact that the primaries are a nominating process. Perhaps we should have the courage to nominate the unelectable now because it is the right thing to do leaving the results to God. (I say that still not decided on who I will vote for on Super Tuesday.) Isn’t there a verse in the Bible that says, “Do right until the stars fall”?

Am I endorsing/nominating an Evangelical just because he professes to be an Evangelical?

Now, one more thing: Does this mean that we are obligated to endorse/nominate/vote for a self-proclaimed evangelical?

Absolutely not. The Scriptures are very clear that many people will be quick to identify themselves as Christians and, therefore, it is foolish to get excited about a man just because he says he is a Christian. While I am quite sure that Romney is not a Christian, I am not so sure that Huckabee, for example, is a Christian. I am not suggesting that he has said or done anything that proves to me he is not a Christian, but there are great pretenders in the world. It is stupidly gullible to get jazzed up about a person just because he is a “Christian.” Again, I think it is obvious that just because a man is a Christian doesn’t mean he is qualified.

Thus, it seems to me, that a thoughtful Christian who is proposing to the nation a choice (nominating) will make a faith-driven decision (electibility considered among others as critical factors, but not exclusively) to choose (vote) on the 19th of January a person who, all things being considered, will be the best nomination possible for President of the United States.

At the general elections we will all choose (vote) the lesser-of-two-evils (or three), but you should do us the favor of doing your best to give us the best nomination possible. Let God take care of the consequences.

As for my personal opinion: Romney should be your last choice. I have no clue who you should nominate on the 19th. I really don’t. They all make me nervous. But if you choose a Mormon, you choose a man whose life is governed by his anti-Christ zeal and you have lost your right to bemoan the fact that America has left her Christian roots.

To put it gently.

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Comments

Feel passionately about this, do you Bob? ;-)

I’ll have to wade through this a bit more. It’s an interesting read.

I think everyone should vote for Huckabee, not because he’s perfect but because he shares a Christian worldview and values. He may or may not get the nomination, but I think he is worthy of a vote in the primary. Many of my Christian political friends like Thompson. Many of my non-Christian political friends like Romney. Nobody that I know likes McCain or Giuliani. But there’s something attractive to me about having someone in the God-ordained priesthood of government that shares not only a conservative outlook on politics but also a Christian outlook on the world.

Posted by: Brian McCrorie at January 16, 2008 02:27 PM

I’m not so sure that Huckabee shares my conservative outlook on politics. I wish Thompson had woken up sooner.

Posted by: Coach C at January 16, 2008 04:52 PM

“Jones seems to think that Romney’s religion is better than Hillary’s non-religion.”

Bob,

I think I brought this up the last time you posted something like this, but this is a misrepresentation of Dr. Jones’ statement.

Frank

Posted by: Frank Sansone at January 16, 2008 05:24 PM

Bob,

I’m benefiting from reading your arguments, even though I don’t share your conclusions. This discussion is so multi-faceted that it shouldn’t be surprising that the race is so muddled.

Would you argue that Mormonism is more blasphemous than Roman Catholicism with its denial of the finished work of Christ? What about all the mainline Protestants and their denial of the virgin birth and resurrection. And this may be a minor point, but Hillary is not irreligious, at least externally. She’s been in a number of Bible study and prayer groups during her years in the Senate, as I understand it, along with other lawmakers many would consider to be evangelical.

One of the more interesting conversations I’ve had recently is with a friend who argues that electing Huckabee is the worst possible option for Christianity in America because a Huckabee presidency would only advance the rampant notion that politics advances the Kingdom.

I’m not endorsing Romney. Obviously, I’m already on record that the Jones endorsement was wrongheaded. I’m just having a hard time seeing how Mormonism is worse (more blasphemous, etc.) than Catholicism or liberalism, or even nominalism. Or the Huckabee option, for that matter. If anything, maybe Romney is worth thinking about because he may be the one guy in the race who genuinely believes that his church can/will hold him accountable, and his faithfulness to its morality may have something to do with his eternal standing.

Who knows? I could be way way wrong.

Posted by: Ben at January 16, 2008 05:39 PM

Frank,

You said then “For instance, the quote regarding Romney’s erroneous religion vs. Hillary’s lack of religion was not “saying that religion of whatever ilk is better than no religion”, but was saying that Romney’s false religion is no worse than Hillary’s false religion. It was answering the question about Romney’s Mormonism, not claiming a superiority of “religion” vs. “no religion.””

I think you split hairs, brother. Granted, Jones said that Hillary’s non-religion (I think he used the word “irreligious” not “false” as you say) is no worse than Romney’s false religion. So? That’s exactly what I’m taking exception to.

Posted by: bob at January 16, 2008 06:00 PM

Ben, I want to interact with your comment here. My comments in bold)

Would you argue that Mormonism is more blasphemous than Roman Catholicism with its denial of the finished work of Christ?

Yes. As the blogger I quoted in the post said, the Jesus Christ of Christianity and the Christ of Mormonism have as much in common as the Sacramento Kings and King Tut. The RCC at least honors Christ in acknowledging who He is even though they are very wrong on atonement and other important doctrines. Mormonism, on the other hand, defames Christ by re-inventing Him altogether and honoring a false god. I think there is a difference between honoring the true God sinfully and honoring a false god.

What about all the mainline Protestants and their denial of the virgin birth and resurrection.

Same thing. But while they are wrong, they are not cult-like in their commitment to turn hearts away from the true God by sealing them off in an impenetrable religious system.

And this may be a minor point, but Hillary is not irreligious, at least externally. She’s been in a number of Bible study and prayer groups during her years in the Senate, as I understand it, along with other lawmakers many would consider to be evangelical.

I agree. I haven’t said that she is irreligious except to pick up on Jones’ statement. I assume that Jones knows that about Hillary and, therefore, we could all at least hope that her “religion” or “non-religion” hasn’t cut her completely off from healthy Evangelical influences. On the other hand, Romney’s religion despises everything that is Christian and has permanently cloistered him away from any evangelical influence.

One of the more interesting conversations I’ve had recently is with a friend who argues that electing Huckabee is the worst possible option for Christianity in America because a Huckabee presidency would only advance the rampant notion that politics advances the Kingdom.

I understand his concern. But what’s the solution? Are we supposed to deliberately choose unbelievers? That seems ridiculous to me. That’s the weakest argument against Huckabee. Although a friend of mine who has sent a financial contribution to the Huckabee campaign told me, tongue in cheek, that the reason he did this was to keep Huckabee out of the pulpit!

I have concerns about Huckabee. But with all of his problems he is not cloistered away, his mind is not the bond slave, of one isolated but powerful religion.

I’m not endorsing Romney. Obviously, I’m already on record that the Jones endorsement was wrongheaded. I’m just having a hard time seeing how Mormonism is worse (more blasphemous, etc.) than Catholicism or liberalism, or even nominalism. Or the Huckabee option, for that matter. If anything, maybe Romney is worth thinking about because he may be the one guy in the race who genuinely believes that his church can/will hold him accountable, and his faithfulness to its morality may have something to do with his eternal standing.

Huh? Wasn’t Romney a Mormon when he was not pro-life? I doubt his flip-flop is religious conversion as much as it is political expediency. Call me cynical.

Who knows? I could be way way wrong.

As could I.

Posted by: bob at January 16, 2008 06:32 PM

Thanks for the food for thought. I am mulling over your analysis and argument regarding Romney.

I disagree with Brian McCrorie that Huckabee shares my Christian worldview and values. Anyone who can make a joke about his “phone call from God” (see Chris Anderson’s Dec. 28 post on “My Two Cents”) knows nothing of either my Christian worldview or my values.

I fear that we are going to all need clothes pins for this election.

Posted by: Lyn Marshall at January 16, 2008 09:21 PM

Bob,

I think I’m grasping the basis for your conclusions. Although I get what you’re driving at, I think you’re more optimistic towards the RCC and mainline denominations than I would be. By that I mean that I understand those two groups to be what you understand Mormonism to be—committed “to turn hearts away from the true God by sealing them off in an impenetrable religious system.” Machen was right to call liberalism another religion, and that system is just as hostile to the truth as Mormonism is. It’s just more subtle.

And no, I don’t think we should try to elect non-Christians. I do have concerns that electing someone who’s campaigning as a “Christian leader” is going to hurt Christianity in America even more than electing a Mormon.

But your point about flip-flops is well taken. Are there nominal Mormons too?

Posted by: Ben at January 16, 2008 09:37 PM

Don’t forget that Huckabee plays a bass guitar too.

Posted by: Brian McCrorie at January 16, 2008 11:04 PM

In 1971 Dr. Noel Smith, preacher, editor, and college professor, delivered an address at the Fundamental Baptist Congress of North America in Detroit. The subject of the message was “The Christian and Citizenship.” He put this issue in clear perspective when he said: “And on this basic and decisive issue, if Christian citizens do not exercise in every practical way their privileges and obligations of citizenship, then they should be decent enough to keep their mouths shut about the religious, moral, and political depravity and degeneracy that surrounds them.”

“Christian citizens should be both thinkers and doers. This country was founded and constitutionally established by men who were both thinkers and doers. To think without doing is worthless, and to act without first thinking is to make the condition worse . . . .Therefore, Christians should not take the position that we should have none but a Christian government. I wouldn’t want to live under a government by preachers. In the first place, half of them would hang the other half before sundown for the glory of God. And I suspect I would be on the hanging end. The best Christian on earth may know nothing about the philosophy of civil government. In government Christians have failed about as often as non-Christians.”

Posted by: Fred Moritz at January 17, 2008 07:56 AM

That is a great quote! And one reason that Huckabee’s evangelicalism does not make the sale for me. Although, I think it might be extreme on the other hand for Christians to not vote for a man because he is a Christian. Imagine the next political strategy: the best way to get the evangelical vote is to adequately defend one is not a believer!

But I think the Noel Smith quote is dead on, especially this part:

if Christian citizens do not exercise in every practical way their privileges and obligations of citizenship, then they should be decent enough to keep their mouths shut about the religious, moral, and political depravity and degeneracy that surrounds them.”

And this is humorously sad:

I wouldn’t want to live under a government by preachers. In the first place, half of them would hang the other half before sundown for the glory of God.

And this would certainly be likely for me:

And I suspect I would be on the hanging end.

Posted by: bob at January 17, 2008 08:22 AM

Don’t get mad at me. I’m one of the 8% in MI who backed the Ron Paul Revolution. Good post Bob.

Posted by: Scott D at January 17, 2008 10:56 AM

Carlolina? :-)

And why is everything underlined?

Posted by: spelchek at January 17, 2008 11:12 AM

I am completely befuddled by what happened. The only thing I can imagine is that when I was messing around with my blog this morning I did something seriously wrong! The extra “L” I can attribute to my incredibly fast, but sometimes inaccurate, typing. ;-)

I can’t explain how the entire blog post was underlined. Must not have put a /u somewhere.

I have no clue.

Posted by: bob at January 17, 2008 11:26 AM

Bob, your preaching stirs me.

There is nothing more important than the glory of God and the true nature of the Lord Jesus Christ. Nothing else matters. Period.

And yet I am so thankful for the measures of freedom and happiness that God has granted me and my family through the LDS politics of the intermountain West. It is a marvelous mission field. Living elsewhere in America is downright scary, politically. But I know God gives grace to each one of His own.

And it is God Almighty that will pulverize that idolatrous nature in both LDS and evangelicals in the end.

Posted by: Todd Wood at January 17, 2008 03:27 PM

If I understand your argument - that the evil of Romney’s Mormonism exceeds that of the other canidates nominal Christianity or lack of religion - then you must support anyone but Romney. Your distiction between the primary and general elections is really a mute point isn’t it?

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