December 27, 2007
Did I Endorse Huckabee? Unpolished and Rambling Thoughts on Politics and Preachers - Again
My post about the Bob Jones’ early endorsement of Mitt Romney drew some interesting responses. There are, of course, the typical responses that come from those who act as if the slightest public criticism of anything Jones is tantamount to peeing on the flag. I dismiss that.
I know in my heart that I respect the Jones, like the school, and that any mature and rational Jones knows that any criticism I’ve leveled is minor compared to the darts of flame they have hurled at many of their opponents in the past years. Criticism is par for the course for people who want to live public lives, particularly for preachers who want to make public endorsements of politicians who are in a cult. (Although “America’s pastor” says that in his mind Romney is a Christian.)
So the emails that winced and whined over my “verbal assault” (puh-leeze) on Dr. Jones were mostly dismissed. Yet they confirmed to me the effectiveness of an endorsement. A number told me that they were persuaded by Dr. Jones’ endorsement, but my simple blog was enough to change several minds. They are going to vote differently.
“Several” only means “two.” One from Iowa and another from New Hampshire. Yet my small blog has helped change minds. Maybe more than two. Because not everyone who reads writes me. Nonetheless, it goes to show that public statements have an effect. It is frightening the influence we can have. Why would anyone really want to use his influence to sway people to vote for a certain man against other equally qualified men when the way is so unclear as it was in October?
Does Bob Jones have insight beyond the power of mere mortals? Does he know how Romney will use his veto pen or who he might appoint to the Supreme Court?
Face it. Endorsing anyone is a gamble. And preachers of all people should be suspicious of the hearts of men. What a person might actually do once he has power is something no one can know. Even Reagan failed us in some ways.
American evangelicals practically worship Reagan. We’ve experienced 8 years of the millennium already according to them. But even with all of his wisdom as practically the fourth person of the trinity, he appointed Sandra Day O’Connor. Tsk, tsk! He should’ve known better.
The point was that I think it is not a preacher of the Gospel’s place to endorse people for presidency when there are so many other people that are viable candidates. I don’t need to try to explain myself here again. The criticism I get for criticizing Jones I can deal with.
However, the criticism of my post that alarms me is that my post could be read as an endorsement of Huckabee by ranking Norris’ endorsement of Huckabee as superior to Jones’ endorsement of Romney.
The endorsement was superior. I did not want to talk about the actual candidates.
Here’s the scoop: I did not (and do not) endorse Huckabee. I was merely attempting to point out the difference between what I thought sounded like a principled endorsement and a panicked endorsement. In my opinion, the principled-sounding endorsement happened to be endorsing Mike Huckabee.
As I’ve said, I don’t think it is our business as preachers of the Gospel to endorse at this stage of the game, particularly when some are professing believers and others are in a cult. How are we to know that God does not want to do a shocking work and place a Christian against all odds in the White House? Who are we to interfere so early in the game with a politically-savvy endorsement that undercuts the Christian?
Guessing on the heart of man is a tricky business. But, frankly, I wrestle with a profound trust issue toward Huckabee that is just as disturbing in my teeny-weeny psyche as the trust issues I have with Romney because while I think it is not appropriate for preachers of the Gospel to endorse politicians, I have stronger feelings about preachers of the Gospel running for president. And that is one reason why I don’t endorse Huckabee: because of what he says he was or is.
“It’s not like [I’m] stepping from the pulpit last Sunday and running for president.” (source)
Uh, really?
I have issues with Huckabee on a more visceral level. My pastoral instincts revolt. As a pastor, an under-shepherd, I don’t like what I see. I’m having a hard time getting excited about either Romney or Huckabee.
I am not a political expert. Jones’ may be right. Romney may be the only hope to beat Hillary. (Assuming that’s the only thing on the national agenda for evangelical voters.)
Whatever. But I think Romney is just going to be another dynasty-boy, slick and rich, with all the same disappointments to offer as did George W. Bush. Only a better talker (and that’s not hard). That’s my thought.
Granted, Bush did appoint two great justices.
At least for the moment. Consider Reagan’s record again.
But the point is, I don’t endorse Romney and I couldn’t endorse Huckabee. I don’t endorse anybody. This revelation, of course, has shattered the hopes of several presidential hopefuls who were hoping against all hope that PENSEES would publish an official endorsement. But until I get an all-expenses paid trip to Vail for a week of skiing and “prayer” with the candidates, I’m holding to the non-endorsement strategy.
Nonetheless, I can see how my dislike for Romney in the past post appeared to be a subtle endorsement of Huckabee. I apologize.
And to be fair, since I have let my distrust for Romney leak, I’ll just come right out and say my feelings about Huckabee as well. I am resolved to be an equal-opportunity offender.
I personally would have a hard time voting for a pastor. It’s that simple. If God called him to the pastorate, when did God un-call him? If he was never called to the pastorate, why was he a pastor? That would make him a charlatan either by his craftiness or by his ignorance. I don’t want either option for my leader. If he was really a pastor, why would he want to be anything else?
I think whoever ordained him should rescind his ordination. He should experience a Baptist version of defrocking. The Baptist synod or presbytery ought to convene and remove him from the sacred desk. (I speak as a fool. Baptists don’t do that. All it takes to be called a pastor is to have a church.)
A man who “pastors” big churches and climbs the ranks and then has nowhere else to go but outside the church to keep moving up is a man that makes me wonder if he ever had a true understanding of what pastoring is all about. It reveals the professionalism of American ministers that is fleecing the flock of God. The step from pastoring to politicking is a very small step for these guys.
And, judging from the picture on the right, Huckabee is savvy enough to know that while you can get away with being an overweight pastor, it will never work for politics.
Baptist politics is so much more lenient on flabby political preachers than American politics. We Americans like our politicians fit. We Baptists like our preachers fat. Apart from that there is really not much difference for most Baptists between the pastor and politician.
At this stage of the game, I’d have a hard time voting for a pastor. But then again, maybe he has confessed that he was never called to the pastorate in the first place; maybe he has experienced an a Divine revocation of his call, or maybe he is in a delusion thinking that his ministry is still expanding. If so, he blights the pastoral calling. Has he admitted anywhere that being in the pastorate with the ego-gratifying perks of American ministry complete with fans, flattering introductions, and sighing mothers who swoon when your shadow falls on their babies has given him an appetite for politics?
That’s not an accusation. That’s just a question.
Bottom line: I did not/do not endorse Huckabee. I don’t endorse anyone.
However, if I must choose between a pastor and the devil, I’d place my bet on the pastor.
Posted by Bob Bixby at December 27, 2007 06:19 PM | eMail this entry! | 1385 WordsThis entry was posted in the following categories: Politics and Culture
Hey Bob,
I am not defending BJIII’s endorsement per se, just his right as a citizen to make the endorsement.
But I am amazed at this:
As I’ve said, I don’t think it is our business as preachers of the Gospel to endorse at this stage of the game, particularly when some are professing believers and others are in a cult. How are we to know that God does not want to do a shocking work and place a Christian against all odds in the White House? Who are we to interfere so early in the game with a politically-savvy endorsement that undercuts the Christian?
This makes no sense to me at all. What difference does a number on the calendar make? You say that you can’t endorse now but you can endorse later? What makes the big difference? If it is wrong at one point in time, surely it is wrong at every point in time.
I think you earlier said once the nominees are decided it is ok to endorse…
Well… why then? And what kind of impact would that have? Conservative minded Christians announce that they are voting for the more conservative Republican candidate… whoopie! Big impact! The world was holding its breath trying to figure out that one.
No, it seems to me that if you endorse, now is the time. Later doesn’t matter.
And last… man, the language! We’ve been through this before, but your first paragraph…
Regards
Don Johnson
Jer 33.3
Outstanding thoughts across the board, Bob. You were correct before and you are correct now. Some of your wit and wording had me laughing outloud by the way. (Particularly that first paragraph!)
Posted by: Dan Burrell at December 27, 2007 11:11 PMThanks again for sharing your thoughts and your wit. I agree with your sentiments on a pastor lowering himself to go into politics. Not that politics is per se low but that anything is lower than the privilege to get up each week and proclaim the Word of the Lord!
Posted by: Jon Bell at December 28, 2007 08:53 AM:::Sigh::: I guess I will have to re-think registering http://linscott2008.com…
Posted by: Greg Linscott at December 28, 2007 09:28 AMWell, Bob, I’ll have to be the lone dissenter, I suppose. While there can be no equivocation between the Church and the State (after all, Christ didn’t give Himself for the State), I would just remind everyone that those in positions of authority in government are biblically described as “ministers of God.” I believe if you look at the Greek, you’ll see it’s the word for priest.
So while I think pastoring is the greatest vocation I can aspire to, let’s not denigrate the work of God’s priests in the realm of human government. They too are called (placed) by God for His purposes.
I would also submit it’s a little disingenuous to make fun of his “calling” to the ministry or lack thereof. The “call” to the ministry is often viewed as some divine existential zap. I think we put God in a box if we say that He can’t put a man in ministry and then put a man in government.
Posted by: Brian McCrorie at December 29, 2007 12:12 AMYou, know, I’m glad that I’m not the only one who has these reservations:
http://reformingbaptist.blogspot.com/2007/12/why-i-havnt-jumped-on-huckabee-banwagon.html
Well Bob, if you keep going, you won’t have to endorse anyone because you will have told us everyone you DON’T intend to vote for.
After you told us why you thought it wasn’t proper to endorse a candidate you proceeded to unendorse a candidate. Sounds like you’re getting involved anyway—just from a different angle.
I wonder if Huckabee didn’t lose weight because he didn’t make some kind of New Year’s resolution (wink wink) motivated out of a desire to be healthier, rather than some kind of menacing motive to become the president. Maybe he doesn’t have the rare “Bixby Syndrome” where you actually lose weight when you DON’T exercise.
As I’ve been listening to the various candidates, I THOUGHT, maybe, possibly, just maybe, I was going to cast my primary vote for Huckabee. BUT, now that I know my pastor doesn’t support him, then how can I in good conscience? In fact, I wish I could take back the $20 donation I made to him. Does anybody else have the same regrets?
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Quick, sortof related question: Do you think there are ANY candidates who have the conviction that Bhutto had (per your previous entry)? We seem to have a real issue in America, because the closest I can think of is someone like Alan Keyes who doesn’t seem to mince words, but there isn’t a snowballs chance he’ll be elected. Maybe Ann Coulter should run?
Posted by: Shannon at December 29, 2007 09:23 AMI know in my heart that I have nothing but Christian love for you guys, but . . . when you start dealing with politics and culture, well let’s just say criticism is par for the course.
Bob, I have no committment to Hukabee, but your view that a pastor would have to be “uncalled” to run for political office is incoherent.
Are pastors the only ones whose vocation is a calling from the Lord? I thought you liked the Puritans. They believed, rightly, that we all, not just clergy, are called by God to our various vocations. If they were right here, then you must either restrict political offices to folks whose only work has been and will be politics (a huge mistake in my opinion), or allow for “temporary reassignments” or (as the Puritans thought) multiple assignments. Why is it ok for a planter like Washington or Jefferson to leave his plantation for eight years, but it is not ok for a clergyman to leave his pulpit for the same term?
Oh, and I hope you aren’t referring to Jones and the other fundamentalists under the label “evangelicals”. It’s hard to tell, because I know quite a few fundamentalists who view Regan in the same way as the “American evangelicals” you reference. The fundamentalists disowned and cast aspersions on the label “evangelical” for far too long. Even though it’s true that fundamentalists are just excessively militant/separatist evangelicals. They don’t get to use the term without some sincere apologies . . . and phrases like “These terms were really no big deal to us” don’t count.
Posted by: Keith at December 29, 2007 09:13 PMBob,
I recently read (I believe it was on gopusa.com) that the Democrats have specifically not been attacking Huckabee much because they want him to win the Republican nominee. Apparently they have some dirt on him that will practically guarantee them the White House. Now I realize this is all speculation, but I sure hope its not related back to his pastorate. What a disservice to God if that turns out to be the case!
As with you I am not endorsing any candidate as of now. I might be leaning closer to Huckabee (due to the many reasons you’ve previously mentioned and other issues), but the choices seriously stink the election.
Anyway all that to say, continue the writing! I for one am welcoming your perspective and have been challenged and encouraged by it.
Posted by: Stewart at December 29, 2007 11:18 PMStewart,
You ought to be careful in passing along speculation. How would you like it if someone wrote: “Bob, I heard that someone has dirt on Stewart. It’s all speculation, but I sure hope that its not related to his ministry. What a disservice to your blog and to God if that turns out to be the case.”
I’m not saying it’s out of the realm of possibility that Hukabee has some skeleton in his closet. All I’m saying is that with no more than “speculation” Christians ought to consider a person inocent. Inocent until proven guilty is a biblical concept that was borrowed by the U.S. judicial branch (and others). It was not originated by secularists. We should not be involved in publicly airing unsubstantiated gossip.
We could begin to impact culture and politics — the way we ought to — by living according to Christian princples in every arena.
Posted by: Keith at December 30, 2007 08:11 AMKeith,
You are right, I did overstep there. While my intentions were not meant toward idle speculation and gossip, that is what I did.
Please accept my apologies to any who read my initial comment.
Posted by: Stewart at January 2, 2008 06:28 PM